The floor guys made custom floor vents. They will not withstand the normal kitchen detergent cleanings that need to occurr to remove grease or pancake batter. We are wrapping up our new build and the floor stain choice was today. The 'big boys' of the finishing industry are 2-3 times more expensive than DuraSeal (and for good reason) which means the professionals will make less money. It must be sanded down and done again. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. It did not affect the color. I will ask him about Poloplaz Pearl and Pallman products as well.Would you suggest a satin or matte finish? I know this is a flooring product but the color was almost perfect. These are the guys who put down 3 coats in one day and then p!ss off. (BTW - We ran into the issue with getting character grade mixed into our select a bit too, very frustrating!). @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. Heres a pic kitchen isnt finished yet but should give you an idea, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, From silvery ash to honey blonde or chalk white, light-toned floors hold the key to the pared-back simplicity of Scandinavian style, Rustic touches from nature embellish the white-and-wood palette in this remodeled house in Denmark, White too bright in your kitchen? If you said you wanted the look of 'raw wood' then matte is what they would have brought. One other question. I would rather find a cabinet line that carries white oak in this stain than go with a cabinet maker. MEANWHILE earlier in the process I had contacted the main Corian wholesaler for the East Coast, and had gotten the name of a fabricator in my area. WebBona - WM710013496 - 16.5 in. By clicking Accept I agree to this, as further described in the Houzz Cookie Policy. We have 4 inch white oak installed, but I was reading through your post and have no clue where they are from. A gallon of Varathane = $80 (Home Depot). Please dont post again while I figure out how to delete this post. The reason: they turn orange. HELP!!! Any suggestions would be great. It is a way for everyone to see how easy it is to misunderstand posts. Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? Unfortunately, we have put our kitchen reno on hold. Here's how to see if marble's right for you, A couple remodel their kitchen to better match their 19th-century Oregon homes style, The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. Houzz nutzt Cookies und hnliche Technologien, um Ihre Benutzererfahrung zu personalisieren, Ihnen relevante Inhalte bereitzustellen und die Produkte und Dienstleistungen zu verbessern. If you look at my photos above, the wood sample with one coat of Bona Natural sealer and one coat of Matte Traffic HD looked nice too but looked horrible with one coat of Natural and 3 coats of satin Traffic HD. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? ), Make sure your installer has experience using the Bona products and especially the Nordic. There are some finishes that are a 'high-gloss satin' but I don't know where Bona Traffic HD satin sits on the glossy or not gloss level. We also added the clerestory windows like you did. Every client after that training will pay extra for his/her expertise. . 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There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. My contractor said that I will probably need to use the renew oil every few year which I am fine with. The least porous Quartzites are actually called crystalline Quartzites. It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? trump2 would love to see the final product and what you chose, if your floors are finished. Thanks so much in advance!! My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? Eager to see what you chose and how it turned out. I checked Durasupreme and they have white oak but not in the shade we like. If, youre looking for a small amount. Here are pictures of Bona Natural and Traffic HD on white oak for anyone wondering, Gorgeous! The cost is nothing compared to the durability it will give. Some people complain that is hard to live with finish, because for example foot marks while walking barefoot. Floors look VERY good! I used a custom color mix of about 2/3 mist and 1/3 white stain. Came out a little lighter, but it all depends on your preference. Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. Please contact us if we can be of further help. WebWhite Oak Kitchen Cabinets - Bona NaturalSeal? I put any Quartzite that I have not carried before through vigorous testing before I sell it to my customers as a Quartzite. In the finishing business, 'special' requires a bigger price tag. He is also meeting with Sherwin Williams this weekend at a trade show in Vegas and will see if there are any better options to achieve the Studio McGee look on rift white oak we are all looking for. He said mitering the edges is a nightmare (if you dont mitre, there is a white edge because the color doesnt go all the way through - at least the marble design I chose). I'll be sure to question about their history with using bona in the past. Yes. I might use the Baro for my cabinetsor the Pallman's Natural. My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. Heres a photo of our family room. This is not designed to be the tough outer layer I will mention some Quartzites have a higher level of porosity and should be sealed regularly. Post back here with a link if you get more answers than I did or if you go with white! Our contractor unfortunately was in a hurry so we didnt test many potential finishes. Back to square one. W Spray Mop Kit EJD1462712 The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. They are 7&1/4 inch baseboards though if that helps. Below Jack and Jill bath with Corian countertop AND Corian integrated sinks. They bring in wood from various locations. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. However, I guess Ill put off retirement for a few more years to make up the cost. In real life, they dont have as much brown as in the photo. if so, the bank may be able to give you your money back if you dispute the charge for red oak and the install. I love your wall and cabinet paint too. From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. This was such a great informative thread. This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. Just wondering if 2 coats of the Traffic HD is enough or should I add a 3rd coat of the finish even in rooms that arent used as heavily? First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. The other two will give you more color. He can 'cut in' the edges of the floor with a brush, bite a sandwich, chew, take a drink, go toilette, come back and work the job with a T-barand STILL have time to go over several sections if it looks 'dry'. I wish we did three coats of the Traffic HD as he have a ton of traffic (three kids and a dog!) I did a larger sample of Unico smoke, covered with their Titan (goes on with a roller) and tested it with salty water, red wine and vinegar. Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. Use Bona Naturaseal for the look you want. Sorry but that isn't the way things are done in the building industry. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. MaryJane, My white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Home Layout Changes - Full Remodel - Please help me decide! Doing the samples benefits me and the installer and builder they want me to like the finished product so they dont have an unhappy client. More great information. Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, Color of the Year: Off-White Is On Trend for 2016, Houzz Tour: A Beautiful Nordic Dream in Sweden, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. How did you retained the natural color of the wood? It was applied Saturday morning. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. Let him fix it ONCE. Consider greige, blush, distressed blue or one of these other instant-classic cabinet colors, Try this classic kitchen combination for a design thats warm and inviting, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Bleached White Oak Cabinets Star in This Two-Tone Kitchen, Seeing Green: Some Kitchens Ditch White for Mother Natures Neutral, Hold Everything Your White Kitchen Cabinets Just Got Better, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. We peeked through the windows and the floors are covered with brown paper. Do you have high ceilings ? We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. Amber did of course have the amber/yellow tone - though not as much as I expected. Blue tape is where some contractors messed things up. I can reject non-essential cookies by clicking Manage Preferences. WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. and I wish we had another layer of protection. It was not supportive or helpful. You either pay the piper todayor you pay a couple more pipers in 15 yearsThe choice is yours. 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? The fabricator was really nice and pulled whole Quartz slabs from his warehouse into the parking lot for me to see. It was light and made the room appear larger. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. Please convince me not to settle with maple. They didnt have classic to sample, but the sand/finish guy said it would be closer to the Natural than IntenSeal. I've read mixed reviews of the Loba one last thing, Is your parquet the kind with slats/"fingers"? Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). DuraSeal is light on the wallet (of the contractor) so they like to use it. We only did two and are already seeing wear and tear on the first floor in our main living space. I realize your flooring was "select" not #2 and that makes a difference. Bona Traffic (original) is two steps up from Mega. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. So hand rail and newl postadvice would be appreciated! We got select I think its 3/4 thick and 7 wide. Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. I plan to call the Bona company tomorrow to get their assistance. @mtpo Your floors are beautiful. That doesn't sound like what you are after. Sigh. Based on the research I've done, Nordic Seal has a tendency to show white streaks on the floor. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. Photos would be helpful. I believe there is a local one and I plan to at least explore that. Do you think there is any major issue with this? I DEFINITELY reccomend reading reviews for fabricators before choosing who you'll use . Or Bona Traffic + their stain line. They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. Bona Traffic HD is 10 times EASIER to find (but a snick harder to work with). Make sure you use a PROFESSIONAL who is TRAINED in water based applications. Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? WebBona NaturalSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood on your floor. He can work a section. It seems much darker than the close up picture with the paper removed Just wondering which is closer to what you see in person? The refinishers used "Bona Dri-Fast Natural Stain", "Bona Classic Sealer"*, and "Bona Mega Satin" (two coats). I havent figured out if Im going to use any window coverings yet. Met with our selected cabinet company last week and played with stain mixed with white paint on rift oak samples. There's nothing wrong with making a minor mistake, nor with owning up to it. We recently installed new white oak hardwoods and did not like the color they turned out and will be refinishing them again - would love to get it right second time around (felt the floors looked a lot different when complete than our small sample in round one). And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. Sigh. Thanks for the responses. Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. Finally, I coated half of my sample with their Fortico Satin and I could not see the poly at all. That's how building law works. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. Mega turns yellow. Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! Its for a new build. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? Someone else on here suggested Durasupreme. Can you apply the Bona NaturalSeal and then apply a couple coats of something like the Renner? The water-based products are also much easier to work with. Thanks again! It still should not come off. Maybe a snick less because they won't be using any product. Three teenagers, a dog. We didnt get the fumed product because we couldnt know for sure what color the finished product would be. We have one big space kitchen, then dining area with doors to exterior, then the family room. We learned a lot from seeing the color and pattern differences between the American white oak and Norwegian white oak (and white oak from other areas). Ill post more pictures when I get back to the house. And you want to have 3 coats total. I just got samples and have found mixing the white with mist gives almost an exact color for unfinished white oak. Yours looks so light and bright. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. The 'raw' look is a special look. My flooring guy said (and backed it up with a sample) that a water-based sealant with *no tint* (I think Bona ClassicSeal?) (Thank you @Joseph Corlett for giving me the confidence to use Corian and to Heartwood Solid Surfaces for doing the work.) The chemical composition of natural stones will affect their performance in your home so it's important you have this information. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). These posts priceless. It would have been better to ASK if they put on all 3 coats in one day. Can you add some white to the Renner System? Also, the guy said they usually apply the sealer one day, then one or two finish coats the next day (running into the 3rd day depending on how it dries). Im trying to stay with the natural look. It may come in other thicknesses too. My vanity with Corian and porcelain sink. I believe you can put Titan on top of Pullman's and then Fortico on top of Titanif you like Pallman's colors. Haven't made decisions on flooring yet, but I love white oak. You want someone fully trained in the art of the 2-component (2K) water based system. @clairepope It's only been a year - so far they are perfect! Very patient. Granite is an igneous rock also formed from extreme heat and pressure. Ive read quite a few different comments on all 3 and some seem conflicting. It's a installer issue. Thank you! The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. We used 1 coat Bona Nordic and 2 coats Traffic HD in Satin. I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. 1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. A quick scan of my question and then a quick scan of your answer simply lead G & S to believe all 3 coats were put down same day.which happens more than you really want to know. It still a major upgrade from Bona MEGa. The use of water based is VASTLY different from oil based. View a wide selection of Rugs and other great items on KSL Classifieds. I settled on something I didnt love and it turned out it was one of the most expensive ones. I asked him to bring natural finish tomorrow, Im torn between natural and classic. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. Classic seall will add more tan/yellow. Hi thanks in advance for your help We are having white oak installed and finished on site. ! Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. I have read through almost every post here looking to see how to get the most natural finish without yellowing. Finalize your sanding with 150 grit and apply the first coat. Did you put your deposit down on a charge card? https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/. The ClassicSeal will offer a hint of yellow but will not be horrible. It was so clean, perfect match for my cabinets, so WHITE (no yellow, gray or beige cast). How are you liking it so far? Web$55.00 Mainstays Farmhouse Oversized Floral Cream Area Rug, 7x10 for sale in Murray, UT on KSL Classifieds. thanks, All! (Just read the dog drool threads.) I am hoping this Sherwin Williams product won't yellow over time. According to WFB's 2020 State of the Industry Contractor Survey Report, in 2019 red oak made up 48% of installed species and white oak made up 32% Thank you for your input. While I am not happy that we are all having this issue - I am somewhat relived to see that I am actulally not losing my mind that this look should be achievable in some fashion . Nordic seal is not a easy product to put down, unless you have experience. (The Classic has less of a haze.) It can work with a range of subfloors, including concrete, Looking for something different from an all-white kitchen? And DuraSeal is not necessarily considered "professional grade". Make warm gray your new go-to neutral, Find the right local pro for your project, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/, 5 Essential Moves for Classic Scandi Style, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Natures Color Wisdom: Lessons on White From the Great Outdoors, What to Know About Engineered Wood Floors, Maison & Objet: Art Deco and a Return to Elegance, Color of the Week: Decorating With Warm Gray. I had some 2 x 2 Corian samples that kept calling my name. The cabinets were custom and all paint is SW- Pure White. WebIt was natural that he should seek an education in that city and from that institution, for both were allied to him by ties of no ordinary significance. Quartzite gets a bad name due to companies mislabeling marbles, dolomites and sandstone. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Then the next day a coat of finish. It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. Although, it can be used as a stand alone sealer. Ask youself, do you WANT to see a floor that shines AFTER you clean it? The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. They are still drying and look darker in the photos than they do in person FYI. We are looking for the same - any update on what you ended up using? Nice, eh?! Sigh. Directly before me was one of the mirrors I have mentioned, in which I saw reflected the tall shape of my friend, Mr. Jennings, leaning over my shoulder, and reading the page at which I was We told the company to put 3 coats of the Bona product on the floors. Dark floors are pretty popular with clients but as you mention usually going with white or painted cabinets. (The chocolate would have been fabulous next to it.) My new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. Michael, do you have pics of the intense seal? !Are you happy with the Satin? I am nervous about this and I'm wondering if anyone had trouble with white streaks on their floor? It has come out very well. @tkgriff Thanks for sharing the photos. I am aware that it will require maintenance but most things do so Im fine with it. Not quite "honey oak" but not far from it. I am sorry , Thank you!! :). Once you and your professional shake hands and write a contract that's when they come in and start the job. Hi, I know this is 2+ YEARS LATER, What finish did you end up selecting for your parquet floors? The more coats you apply, the lighter it becomes. You should look it up. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. "1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. Ill try to get a better photo next time I go to the house (were still not in). They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Please help on base, crown, window, door molding size decision. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. William Smith, D.D., was The light white washing will give you the raw look. Which possibly suggests installation issue. Its really helpful to see the product on YOUR wood. Try this color if you want a darker shade. Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. True Quartzite is very dense and many are not prone to staining. If you do NOT want ORANGEthen stay away from "oil" based finishes or "oil modified". (I didnt think about this before adding the bookcases.) I would bet it would come in at the same price as a "buff and coat" (national average = $3/sf). I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried. See the before and afters and why we chose this color. That means you relate clean with shiny. Pretty sure they bleached their cabinets but who knows at this point. Apply and wipe off excess. Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Give your joints a break while you're standing at the stove, with these resilient and beautiful materials for kitchen floors, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, 7 Kitchen Flooring Materials to Boost Your Cooking Comfort. Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. Cochrans offers this wood in different thicknesses and grades which also impacts the price. You only need an inch. I was asked two separate questions. WebWe just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. How to keep red oak floors light and natural? They were great to work with. Also I highly suggest getting big samples done with all the coatings. Yes, thsts bleached and toned oak with a matte finish. Just just had solid white oak #2 flooring installed in my den. Christina check out Rubio monocoat Gris belge Havana Slate grey These greys are very popular and with the matte sheen you will absolutely love them. Indem Sie auf Annehmen klicken, stimmen Sie dem zu. WebChapter IV - Four Eyes Were Reading the Passage I was running the head of my pencil-case along the line as I read it, and something caused me to raise my eyes. I absolutely love the floors. I am often surprised at how it feels to open/close off certain areas. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. We went with natural seal and traffic HD finish. It doesn't make sense. I am trying to figure out the same for my rift oak cabinets. I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time.
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